g loomis imx pro vs orvis recon

The softer tip gave me better feel and accuracy than the BVK. Only then do subtle differences reveal themselves. The bottom ring has a thin nylon insert on the top, which helped give a positive lock up with a heavier reel. Rods are repaired or sections replaced. A short composite cork, fighting butt is used. The Fenwick Aetos, at under two hundred bucks, is an incredible bargain! The G. Loomis IMX-PRO rod series is made to meet the performance demands of the modern day, freshwater fisherman. Redington – Lifetime warranty to original owner. The Asquith’s enormous butt and mid-section power made it easy to manhandle 8-17 lb. If a rod looks like a million bucks and casts like it too, fly fishermen are going to lust for it. I’m getting nicely formed loops and pretty good accuracy that is not far off the better rods. Not so hot at the longest distances. In the Presentation category, the NRX+ LP was amazing, but the Douglas Sky G and Helios 3F were not far behind. However on some rods like the Scott Meridian, where the swell is slightly forward of dead center, we move the fulcrum to that point. As good as the Zephrus and even better than the Recon. Temple Fork Outfitters (TFO) – Lifetime warranty to original owner. The Recon is built at the Orvis factory in Manchester, VT. The line size designation is marked on the top of the sliding band; a nice touch. But will they make you a better angler? The reel seat is pretty drab for a rod in this price range, utilizing an anodized black aluminum up-lock seat with a synthetic gray insert – no fancy wood here. As in the past, you will be amazed at how well some of the inexpensive rods do compared to rods that cost hundreds of dollars more. #8  Hardy Zephrus AWS   9 foot #8   $729.00. The Motive is built at the Sage factory on Bainbridge Island, Washington. But remember it is going to also cost you $15 or more to ship the rod in for repair or have your dealer do it for you. Look at the deflection board and you’ll see that this is one of the softest rods in our Shootout, but the tip is much slower than the SKY G or LP+. This new rod from G. Loomis was delightful to cast at all distances. I’ve never cast a rod that tracks as well or forms such tight loops with so little effort. Since the GL8 resin is more uniform, it penetrates the fibers more effectively so you don’t have to use as much. I guess it’s no surprise that the NRX would be near the top again this year since it won two of our last three 8-weight Shootouts! In my hand it feels a little heavier than the best presentation rods. #12 (tie)   Fenwick Aetos    9 foot #8   $189.95. Performance at 100 feet:  17 points out of 20. The rings locked up well, but were a little harder to grip than on the best rods. #14 (tie)   Douglas DXF     9 foot #8    $395.00. For Helios 3, new Recon (2020) and the new Clearwater rods, Orvis has introduced a new section replacement program with a 5-business day turnaround. My only gripe is the excessive amount of epoxy finish over the guide wraps. Performance at 35 feet:  19.5 points out of 20. I also like the use of alignment dots on each section. At mid-range, matches the perfect score of the SKY G. If anything it is smoother than the SKY G and I really notice how well this rod is dampened. It is however, a handsome rod with superb craftsmanship that we have come to expect from Sage. The new G Loomis IMX Pro series of fly rods sets the bar pretty high, especially at the $495 price point! With more line in the air, the performance is better. This is another rod that is built in Korea. For this reason we downgraded the Asquith to a 7. Sure, a 6, 7, or 8-weight rod would be better, but a good 5-weight works surprisingly well as long as you limit your streamers to smaller sizes or streamers that utilize materials that don’t soak up a ton of water. Check them out on our webstore here, and give us a call or stop by if you have any questions or want to take one for a test drive! I felt that the diameter was a little small too, which might cramp your hand, having to deal with the heavy swing weight. I felt it was just a shade behind the Orvis Recon for the title of best mid-priced 8-weight. Are you comfortable showing up with a $189 rod on your next $6000 bonefish trip when all your buddies have the hottest $800-$1000 rods? Part of this was the ability to form nice tight loops. We stake down a starting line with bright colored tape, so each caster knows to stay behind the line. For most anglers though, we feel that an 8-weight line is the one to use. Only the Asquith was better, and the NRX was definitely better than the Meridian and Helios at extreme long range. Are they better? This new line has the S.A. Tropi-Core technology – a stiff coating and stiff core, perfect for warmer climates. The Recon also uses lower grade components than the Helios 3F too, other than the cork handle, which is the same high quality stack of thin cork rings we found on the 3F. Feels heavy in the tip and I’m struggling to get any decent accuracy. Despite the lackluster performance, the Crux is a handsome rod, with good craftsmanship. The Galvan reels are essentially maintenance free, with Rulon bushings that require no maintenance or lubrication to keep them working properly. These will be located under my comments on each rod. When used in the top half of the rod, this creates a thin diameter tip section with excellent swing weight, but more importantly helps the rod to recover and dampen quickly. Winston tells us that the Air combines their Super Silica resin system with high modulus boron in the butt to reduce weight but as you’ll see in the Objective Observations chart, the Air was one of the heaviest presentation rods in both overall weight and swing weight. In situations like this, keeping the rod low to the water while you are casting will help. The final step is another wrap of the infinity tape, but at an opposing 90-degree angle to the first, so that the infinity tape forms an “X” pattern. This is a full wells design with a smaller swell than most. Alignment dots are used on all sections. And he should know with all his fly-casting distance and accuracy championships won over the years. A heavier knurl would work wonders. Look at the coatings on the rod wraps. So we did our testing without any appreciable wind. If you have read our Shootouts in the past you can skip this part. I liked the fast action and the relatively light overall weight and swing weight of the Aetos. The plain gray anodized double uplocking seat is nothing fancy either. Another reason you’ll appreciate superior performance at long range is when you need to chuck a wind resistant steamer, like a wooly bugger. $25 handling fee. This rod is finished the color of a fine burgundy wine, with black wraps trimmed in red on the butt section. This is a fast action rod but with a very flexible tip that gives it such great feel and accuracy in close. The more expensive, top performing rods have the ability to throw tighter loops, are dampened better so they track far better, to give you more accuracy and better presentations at all distances. G Loomis was extremely helpful and honored the lifetime warranty in a single short phone call. Felt as good to me as the Meridian and Helios 3F. Each casting station consisted of 4 targets, (which were 12 inch round white paper plates nailed to the grass), the closest at 35 feet, the second at 60 feet, the third at 80 feet, and finally a target at 100 feet. This makes it easier to justify buying the best performing rod. Some rods that perform well at shorter distances just run out of gas at extreme long range or when you have to drill a bonefish fly fifty feet into a 25 mph headwind. This is a category that we have previously used in 6-weight Shootouts, but have newly applied it to the “Power” 5-weight Rods. Overall weight is one factor, but the swing weight is far more important. The lighter, standard size fly line, like the Scientific Anglers Amplitude Trout, is the fly line we picked for these Presentation Rods, while the half size heavier Amplitude MPX is a better match for the more powerful Power 5-weights. This makes for a very pleasant rod to fish hard all day long. There is no hook keeper. They need to be soft enough in the tip to handle 6X and even 7X tippets with ease. Quick view. Scott – Lifetime warranty to original owner, $50 handling fee. Shipping is from their US warehouse, usually takes 2 weeks. They include a FedEx call tag so it costs you nothing to send the broken rod back. The ultimate goal for the new IMX-PRO Series of bass rods is to provide the serious tournament angler with a broad offering of high performance, technique-specific rods. Rods are repaired, not replaced except for broken sections. But we are seeing some terrific rods in both performance and craftsmanship coming from Korea. This makes it easy to switch back and forth if I’m fishing both dry flies and nymphs. Surprisingly better than either the Scott G or Winston Air. Non-original owner $150 per section. Loop uses a full wells cork handle with contrasting cork rings at top and bottom. The new Orvis Helios 3F, the G.Loomis NRX and the new T&T Exocett all finish in a close heat for 3 rd place, in both the Overall and Performance scores. We stand by our methodology however, and by far most of the anglers that take the time to give us their feedback on these Shootouts agree with our findings. PRINT. We have found that trying to judge the accuracy and the ability of a given rod to form tight loops and track well is almost impossible if you have winds of more than 5-10 mph. Douglas is one of the only manufacturers using the new Fuji Torzite guides as stripping guides. Nice and delicate but the tip felt too slow to give me really good accuracy as I was getting with the top four rods. Use this link to go to our Favorite Fly Rod Outfits. Like the Radian, the craftsmanship is top notch and what we have come to expect from Scott. Loop – Lifetime warranty to original owner. This whole guide set-up works great, and allowed the line to shoot like crazy. Decent, but not nearly as good as the Cross SW or the DXF. I prefer the flexible nickel/titanium guides found on the five top rods in our Shootout. Performance at 60 feet:  17.5 points out of 20. If you feel your rod has broken because of a defect, you pay to send the rod to their warranty department for examination. These are light but have proven to be extremely reliable and never break. The new Loomis NRX+ finishes first overall, followed closely by the Scott Radian in 2nd and Asquith in 3rd. This is a fast action rod and as you can see on our deflection board, the flex pattern is similar to the Asquith, just a little softer and with not quite as fast a tip. Rod guides are two SiC stripping guides followed with hard chrome snake guides with an oversized tiptop. Nice feel and good accuracy but I could definitely feel the heavier swing weight. Right out to 80 feet I had the confidence that I could put the fly right where I wanted it almost every time. But this weight translates to good usable power, especially at the longer ranges. G. Loomis NRX Fly Rods These legendary fly rods are the culmination of years of research by the G. Loomis engineering team. The best 5-weight rods need to have excellent loop control and the ability to throw very tight loops, especially if you have some wind to contend with. I have given you my choices for the best Presentation 5-weight Rod and the best Power 5-weight Rod, but at the end of the day I know that anglers want an answer as to what are my choices would be for the best all-around 5-weight rods. With over forty years of experience, I can usually get a pretty good idea of how a rod will perform, just flexing it in my hand. We typically have at least four casters giving you their comments in our Shootout. Not much for guts and this hurt the accuracy. Rods are repaired, not replaced, except for broken sections. Here’s the category that separates the men from the boys – the contenders from the pretenders. Scott does use the same great cork handle we see on the Meridian – a full wells design with a stack of thin, very high quality cork rings. Because the IMX Pro is a mid-priced rod, top-of-the-line componentry isn’t necessarily present in the chrome stripping guide and chrome single-foot guides. As a starter rod, the Aetos is hard to beat! The idea here is measure the swing weight at the middle of where the palm of your hand is likely to sit on the grip. The lighter Zephrus uses Sintrix 440, while the Shadow uses the lower modulus (and heavier) Sintrix 220. These nickel-silver components are simply gorgeous. With your new rod they include a FedEx call tag so that it does not cost you anything to return your broken rod. No handling fee. Bottom line, in use this rod delivers. Beulah is famous for their fancy cork handles. Performance at 80 feet:   19.5 points out of 20. Below the final results charts we give you the exact repair charges for each manufacturer. Once I have the fly line back on the reel, then I feel comfortable putting a lot more pressure on the fish to land it. I don’t think I could have ever done this with a rod other than the Asquith. #24. The best Presentation Rods as well as the best power rods need to score 19.5 points or better here to be in contention for top honors. $75 handling fee to original owner, $150.00 charge to all others. These make a dramatic difference in reducing swing weight on the tip sections of a rod. To be the overall winner, a rod must be judged on many other things too, like price, craftsmanship, warranty, overall weight and swing weight. This is a result of Beulah’s use of the most advanced graphite materials combined with their new Graphene resin. Better at mid-distance and this seems to be the sweet spot for the G2. The new NRX+ finished 1st in our power rod category, and its lighter-action brother – the NRX+ LP – took 2nd place in the presentation rod category. An oversize tip-top is used. A nylon face on the final ring provides an excellent lock-up on heavier reels. The lack of butt and mid-section power hurt a lot at long range. Consider bringing along a pair of cheap vice grip pliers, as you may need them! All that swing weight made me work hard. Again this year we have four distances at which we rate 8-weight rods – 35 feet, 60 feet, 80 feet and 100 feet. Then to judge how fun a rod is to cast we added in categories like “Fun to fish/Got to have” as well as “Perfect 8 Performance,” which gauge what we feel are the very best all-around 8-Weight rods. The series is defined by stiff mid and tip sections to maximize fish-lifting power and positive feel. This fall the weather was more cooperative than usual here in Montana, so we decided to do the Shootout here, rather than in Florida. Orvis Helios 3F    9 foot #8     $898.00. G. Loomis IMX-Pro. The Power Rods are often more versatile 5-weights, and the best have the guts and ability to mend line well when you are fishing indicator rigs, comprised of a wind resistant indicator, two nymphs and even a split shot or two. 6. A little wiggle helps you to feel this. The quality is top shelf as we’ve found on other high-end Orvis rods. The more expensive rods in this Shootout like the Orvis Helios 3F and 3D are $100 more at $898.00. Amazing accuracy too. Their choices sometimes differ from mine, but we are almost always in general agreement on the top 4-6 rods in the Shootout. A short extension butt is used. Performance at 100 feet:  18.5 points out of 20. You can evaluate which categories, such as price, are critical to you when selecting a new rod. I was planning on a IMX Pro and then saw a new Scott a Tidal on sale ($350) and picked it up. Both the Motive and Recon were also better here. Just realize that a 3 wt Trout Spey is equivalent to a6 wt single hand rod. I was getting good feel and accuracy in close with the softer tip on this rod. Guides start out with a hook keeper, then a single SIC stripping guide, followed with black, hard chrome snake guides. 5. View Details - $487.46 . The cork handle, which was redesigned for improved ergonomics, is a half wells design utilizing the highest quality narrow cork rings. We gave it a top score here along with the Asquith and Meridian. Why test with 12-foot leaders? At 35 feet the combination of great feel and accuracy was matched only by the Orvis Helios 3F. The blank itself is finished in a handsome matte dark blue color with lighter blue wraps, trimmed in white, resulting in a very elegant rod. Great rods don’t make great casters, but they can sure help an average caster advance a lot faster. Scott claims that by not sanding the tape marks, this contributes to a stronger blank, and we can’t argue with this as we see very few broken Scott rods. Plenty of guts to throw long, with very good loop control and amazing accuracy. A fancy burled wood insert is used. Other rod designers I know that are great anglers are Jerry Siem at Sage and Jim Bartschi at Scott. It is at the bottom of our presentation rods for a reason – it is not a pleasant rod to cast, and the performance at all distances were not good. One composite ring is used at the bottom for durability. The Meridian and Helios 3F were FAR better. Respectable, but I’m working a lot harder than with the Aetos or DXF. Additionally, it will cost you around $15 to ship your rod in for repair or have your local dealer do it for you. Interestingly, it was one of the lightest of all the presentation rods in overall weight, but the heaviest in the more important swing weight category. When casting this rod, the improvement in recovery and dampening was dramatic! Orvis – 25 year no fault warranty to original owner. The blank is dark blue, trimmed with brighter blue wraps that are trimmed with silver on both butt sections. A blue anodized double uplock seat is used that matches the blank color. Contrasting rubber/cork rings are added top and bottom for increased durability. There are no other rods in our Shootout that are as smooth, dampen as quickly, or track as well as the NRX+ rods. Demo rods are not covered under warranty. They give some rods at nearly twice the price a run for their money. This rod has an incredible amount of power combined with a very low swing weight. Think of it as more of a finesse rod. Nearly everyone is using one-coat epoxy coatings over the guide wraps now, but if they are not very carefully applied, they are often sloppy or add unnecessary weight. Built to the unrelenting specifications of professional fishing guides, the IMX-PRO series is comprised of 15 purpose driven designs to meet the performance demands of modern freshwater fishing. Attractive wood insert spacers that are finished well add to the aesthetic value of any rod. Really, really fantastic rods to be sure, but in the whisper of night, overshadowed by a pretty stressful 24-hour international news feed, Sage dropped the hammer. Selling it because I bought a new one in the meantime so don’t have use for it. Gusty wind was also a big problem, especially if the wind speed was above 10-15 mph. The Shadow is an attractive rod. Performance at 60 feet:  20 points out of 20. Fred Contaoi, head rod designer for Douglas, did a marvelous job in re-designing the SKY G, giving us just what we were looking for in a rod that would produce the ultimate in accuracy and presentation. The feel I was getting at short distance was good, but the accuracy was not quite as good as the Asquith, or the Meridian and Helios 3F. G.Loomis IMX Pro fly rods offer high performance fast action with outstanding components and super comfortable grips for a rod that truly outfishes others in the mid-priced category. This is an absolutely gorgeous rod, and along with the T&T rods, the Winston rods get a perfect score for craftsmanship. Better than both the NRX+ LP and Helios 3F in close. G Loomis IMX-PRO One Piece Streamer Fly Rod. And using a 12 foot leader really shows you how well these rods will turn over a long leader. They do use a nylon washer on the bottom ring that allows a good lock up on the reel. With 20 lb. G. Loomis catapulted itself back into the spotlight last summer with the announcement of the Asquith, its $1,000-plus flagship series which has been showered with accolades. I’ve often had a fish grab a halfway submerged fly in the surface film, when I haven’t been watching closely enough, and bolt off before I could react, snapping my 6x tippet. The quality of the epoxy coatings over the wraps is good. One of the best things about the Meridian is the softer tip, which gives it wonderful feel and control at the shorter distances. Messages 187 Reaction score 3. Hergestellt mit der neuen ConduitCore-Technologie und dem Multi Taper Design wurden Graphitumhüllungen durch neues Material ersetzt, um Gewicht zu reduzieren und die Festigkeit an der richtigen Stelle zu erhöhen. Go to: https://douglasoutdoors.com/about/warranty-info/ to fill out the form. We’ve gotten to know the Zephrus well over the past few years and it has consistently been a great performing rod, winning our 2019 4-weight Shootout, and placing 3rd in our last 5-weight Shootout. Performance categories – right out to 100 feet. $605.00. Combined with the new materials and resin is what Fred calls a “G ARMOR” coating. Ratings: Availability: In Stock. Like it a lot. Click on the images below to see how James, Logan, Francis and Chloe ranked the rods. Don’t let the price slow you down. Matches the Recon, but not in the same class as the best rods. The medium fast action is about right. These are the lighter 5-weight rods, perfect for fishing smaller dry flies, which have the ability to afford the most delicate and accurate presentations. He didn’t want to get more specific and give away their secrets, but these changes allow Douglas to build the new SKY G with less material, resulting in a much lighter and stronger rod. The only good way to find out was to do another comprehensive comparison – our 2020 5-weight Shootout. Expensive rods do have that wow factor that will impress your fishing buddies. The Asquith makes a convincing statement as the best performing rod in our Performance Scores with nearly a perfect score of 119.5 out of 120.0, besting the second place Scott Meridian’s score by 1.7 points. from $279.95 Quick view. Our deflection charts have been so popular that we have included them again this year. If you look at all the rods that scored 19.5 or better here, you won’t go wrong with any of them. No matter what method you use to determine swing weight, it is important to achieve a consistent and believable result that you can use to gauge one rod against another. Definitely one of the best Presentation Rods at long range, and even better for me than the Helios 3D! This is a test that anyone can duplicate. We’ll come out with you and give you some help to fine tune your casting stroke, or just help you with the basics. As far as the cosmetics are concerned, I’m not a fan of all the white they use on the butt section, but that has become a trademark by now and on the rod rack, the Helios 3 rods jump right out at you. I got my first look at the new Loomis Asquith at the ICAST show in Orlando. At least they are fairly thin in diameter to keep the weight down. And with a few exceptions, they perform better than the less expensive rods. This is a blend of three different things: Mega Modulus+ Graphite, GL8 Resin, and a new Multi-Taper Design. They also posses the backbone and power to handle multiple nymph rigs with indicators, which require a lot of mending. As I mentioned before, I’ve never cast a rod that tracks as perfectly as the Asquith. There’s a small superficial mark on the lacquer as pictured. By having all the rods set up identically, it makes it easy to take a few casts with one, lay it down on the grass, and immediately pick up another rod and do the same without having to take the time to strip all the line off the rod and load up another one. Orig:$649.95. Think of it as more of a finesse rod. No points are awarded for this category, but we know that for many anglers, this is a factor in their decision to buy a rod. $25 handling fee. Paid my $100 for replacement and they provided me with comparable brand new rod, IMX Pro 690-4. Only the Asquith and Helios 3F felt slightly better at mid-range. In our Presentation Rod deflection chart, look at the Sage LL (in brown). This year the DXF is a much different rod, with far better performance. The blank color is then the natural graphite gray with chocolate brown wraps, trimmed with lighter brown and orange on the butt. 6. He has been a very important and integral part of our Shootouts and tackle comparisons over the years, as in addition to being a test caster and editor, he’s responsible for putting all of this on line and producing the accompanying photographs. Beulah – Original owner lifetime warranty for defects. The price – at $1100.00 this is the first production rod to break the $1000 barrier. Smooth enough, but not as accurate as the Recon or SKY. Standard size cork rings are used and the cork quality is absolutely the best we’ve seen. And finally this Spring I put it to use on big snook and redfish on Florida’s Gulf coast. The craftsmanship is typical Sage excellence. Regular price $379.99 View. I’m sure the key is a multi step process rather than a one-coat finish. ... G. Loomis IMX Pro 7100-4 regular $665.00 now 25% OFF! The cork itself is that same stack of small width, very high quality cork rings that many of the best rods are using now. Tracks beautifully, with good accuracy but can’t touch the Asquith. The handle is a comfortable half wells and the diameter is just right. You’ll find some ingenious way to sneak it into your stash without the little lady (or husband) finding out. A short fighting butt with a wide composite cork butt cap is used. C $1,347.65. Orvis Helios 3D Fly Rods. The Aetos is another good-looking rod, finished in a deep midnight blue with brown wraps that include some nice silver trim wraps on the butt section. I think the main reason for its lack of performance is a much slower action and heavier swing weight than the Meridian. The G. Loomis crew did a fine job assembling my 6-weight IMX PRO. $25 handling fee on current rods. 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